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mellowtigger ([personal profile] mellowtigger) wrote2011-07-23 01:15 pm
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chimera ethics

I have written about chimeras before. I learned yesterday that the UK Academy of Medical Sciences has released a report of suggested ethics guidelines for researchers who create chimeras.

One category of experiments should be off-limits for the time being, according to the report. This includes the creation of a non-human primate with enough human brain cells to make it capable of 'human-like' behavior. The report says that such animals, which might be able to develop human capacities such as reasoning or self-awareness, would have a moral status close to our own or to that of the great apes, which cannot be used for invasive research in most countries.
- http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110721/full/475438a.html

I do have mixed feelings about their decision on this point. As long as the religious minded are allowed to hold steadfastly to their humans-are-the-center-of-the-universe thinking, then we will never achieve the enlightenment that I think is necessary for the good future of our society and planet. I keep repeating that we need a trans-species declaration of rights. Chimeras with human-like brains and minds would hasten such a development.

[personal profile] loganbeary 2011-07-23 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been thinking about the current Age of Pisces, and it's focus on mass-production and consumption and the coming Age of Aquarius, and what it's focus might be. Been reading up on what others think that focus might be. Some suggest maybe a Golden Age of unity and massive gains in knowledge on the workings of the universe, others think major global warming and flooding may be in store. I'm thinking it may be both.

But it also got me thinking about what follows the Age of Aquarius, the Age of Capricorn, and I'm thinking that may be the Age of the Chimeras, where humanity starts to explore new forms with which to inhabit other planets with, using the knowledge we gained during the Age of Aquarius.

Each Age is about 2150 years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Aquarius

Then I wondered about the Age of Sagittarius, and I'm thinking that will be the Age where we strike out into the universe and start building new civilizations on new worlds in our new forms.

The Age of Scorpio may end up being the Age of intergalactic strife, bringing down or cutting off those new worlds from each other.

The Age of Libra brings everything back into balance and resets the wheel.

The Age of Virgo brings about a rebirthing process to start the wheel rolling again.

The Age of Leo I haven't worked out what the focus is there, primal conquest?

The Age of Cancer, haven't worked this one out either.

The Age of Gemini? Hmmm

The Age of Taurus was apparently an age of human sacrifice and debauchery.

The Age of Aries was the time of Moses

And back to Age of Pieces

I don't believe in astrology, but I find this line of thinking interesting to fantasize about. :o)

And you should know me by now when it comes to "Rights", any being who can demonstrate a capacity to respect the rights of another being, has the same rights they are respecting. If Extraterrestrials visit us and respect our rights, then we should extend the same to them. If someone creates and A.I. that respects our rights, then it has rights. If someone upgrades an animal to a sentient level that they can respect our rights, then they have rights. And if someone creates an artificial body to extend their life, then they too retain their rights.

Rights are a social contract of mutual respect for mutual survival, beings who either refuse to or are incapable of holding up their end of the contract, are not protected by the contract. This includes mass-murderers and any critter who would prefer to eat you instead of co-exist with you.

[personal profile] loganbeary 2011-07-24 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
That is disturbing, had to stop watching. Torturing an being like that is just plain wrong.

[personal profile] loganbeary 2011-08-04 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, I should have warned you about the harshness of it. But I thought it related to the topic of this post.

[personal profile] loganbeary 2011-08-04 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I think like most things there is a spectrum between instinctual and intentional. And this may be a case of "monkey see monkey do" I.e. they observed that we had domesticated the dogs and made the conceptional leap that they could too.