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mellowtigger ([personal profile] mellowtigger) wrote2021-01-04 10:40 pm

the days of the week

I already knew most of the explanation for our days of the week in English, but this YouTube video filled in some important details that I was missing.  Here's the short version of this history.

Humans long ago observed the stars and noted that some of them seemed fixed in the sky while others moved. The Greeks counted 7 heavenly bodies that moved, according to what they could see by naked eye in those days before light pollution. They called these objects the "wanderers", which in Greek is "planetes".

Assuming the Earth was the center of the universe, with the wanderers circling around us in their own spheres, the Greeks numbered those 7 bodies according to the duration of their cycle across the background of stars (also known as their sidereal period), from longest cycle to shortest.  Each of those wanderers was associated with a deity, whose names we'll list soon.
  1. Saturn
  2. Jupiter
  3. Mars
  4. Sun (1 year for it seemingly to circle back to its same position against the background of fixed stars)
  5. Venus
  6. Mercury
  7. Moon
Around 3rd century BCE, Greek astrologers writing horoscopes in Egypt mysteriously decided that those gods in the sky ruled only once per hour during each day. Those 7 hours do not evenly divide into other time periods. If, however, they repeated those turns of 7 names for each hour of every day, then after 7 whole days, they did get back to their original starting position again. For instance:

HourDay 1Day 2Day 3Day 4Day 5Day 6Day 7Day 8
1SaturnSunMoonMarsMercuryJupiterVenussame as day 1
2JupiterVenusSaturnSunMoonMarsMercury"
3MarsMercuryJupiterVenusSaturnSunMoon"
4SunMoonMarsMercuryJupiterVenusSaturn"
5VenusSaturnSunMoonMarsMercuryJupiter"
6MercuryJupiterVenusSaturnSunMoonMars"
7MoonMarsMercuryJupiterVenusSaturnSun"
...........................
24MarsMercuryJupiterVenusSaturnSunMoon"

Presto. The 7-day "planetary" week is formed.  Keep in mind that these "planets" are Greek wanderers in the sky, not what we call planets in astronomy today.

Even more historically interesting, though, is that each day took the name of the deity associated with that day's first hour. As Romans spread their calendar throughout Europe, we ended up with our current day-names.  Christians of Rome renamed 2 of the days, which continued with the Romance languages.  Norse pagans preferred the names of their local gods (keeping similar concepts as the Roman gods) for 4 of the other days, which continued with English (a language made from a bizarre mixture of Latin and German).

DayDeity
(Greek)
Astronomy
(English)

Deity
(Roman)

Day
(Latin)
ChristianityDay
(Spanish)
Day
(French)
Deity
(Norse)
Day
(Old English)
Day
(English)
1KronosSaturnSaturnusDies Saturni"Sabbath"SabadoSamedi SaeturnesdaegSaturday
2HeliosSunSolisDies Solis"The Day of the Lord"DomingoDimanche SunnandaegSunday
3SeleneMoonLunaDies Lunae LunesLundi MonandaegMonday
4AresMarsMarsDies Martis MartesMardiTiw/TyrTiwesdaegTuesday
5HermesMercuryMercuriusDies Mercuri MiercolisMercrediWoden/OdinWodnesdaegWednesday
6ZeusJupiterIovis/IupiterDies Iovis JuevesJeudiThor/ThunderThunresdaegThursday
7AphroditeVenusVenusDies Veneris ViernesVendrediFriggeFrigedaegFriday

As the 7-day week moved eastward, the Hindi and Chinese named their 7 days in the same order as the Greeks.

I do still have a few remaining questions.  I'm curious if the Greeks stole some of their ideas from earlier Egyptian astronomy, or if this repeating 7-hour concept started with them.  Some quick websearching provided me no answer.  I'm also curious about different cultures choosing different days as the start of their week, rather than Saturday.  I find lots of information, but all of it is as clear as the proverbial mud.  Anyway...

Happy Moon Day.
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[personal profile] bitterlawngnome 2021-01-05 06:50 am (UTC)(link)
Most of the astronomy/astrology inherited by classical antiquity was anticipated in Babylon or its predecessors or neighbours (I say anticipated rather then developed cause we have no way of knowing if various cultures developed the same methods independently based on the same observations). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_calendar
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[personal profile] zipperbear 2021-01-06 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
My impression is that dividing days into 24 hours is just arbitrary. Babylonians liked 12 and 60, because of all the factors (2, 3, 4, 5, 6). The quarters of the moon are easily visible, and they affect the tides and the amount of moonlight, so having approximately 4 weeks of 7 days each seems natural and appealing, similar to the roughly 12 lunar months per year. It adds the next integer into the mix.

The fact that 7 is relatively prime to 12 or 24 means any counting of hours in patterns of 7 will repeat every week. That pattern is aesthetically pleasing, but it seems like a contrived way to name the days of the week. I think the Babylonians or other sky-watchers came up with some astrological patterns, and presumably their names caught on with Hellenic tribes, who liked that science-y stuff. Today, the day-names are learned by rote, and they're marginally recognizable as planets or gods, and it's been that way since the Romans copied the Greeks.

The start of the week is also arbitrary, and the shift of Jewish sabbath on Saturday (and Friday night) to Christian Sunday as The Lord's day seem inexplicable to me (and to the Seventh Day Adventists, too), but I guess that's why there's a 2-day weekend, to make sure you get the right day of rest.

Much of the world also just numbers the days of the week, which seems just as easy, except that there's no agreement. My favorite is Swahili, with consecutive day names, one Bantu-derived, the next one Arabic-derived, both meaning "5th day":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_days_of_the_week#Days_numbered_from_Saturday

I'll just keep using the English day names and the American MM/DD format. And they'll pry the Fahrenheit out of my moderately lukewarm hands.