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Even while my computer was still a few years old, I told myself (back in 2012) that I would get a whole new system when the Star Citizen game finally was released for play. It's 2018, Star Citizen still isn't here (but getting close). It is far past time to update my computer. Many organizations amortize their computer systems at 3 year lifespans, but I've had mine since 2010 according to my NewEgg purchase history.

As before, I'm still committed to avoiding high-energy-consumption computing. That temptation is a big one because gaming rigs can draw huge amounts of electricity. Since 2010, however, I have switched to Linux Mint as my exclusive operating system. There's no need to pay Microsoft, and frankly Windows 10 has turned into an advertising platform instead of an operating system. Linux Mint is better, and it's free. I'm also interested this time in maybe trying out a very-low-profile system. Maybe even one small enough to fit under the 4.5" bar on my computer desk that supports the monitors. I wish more cases supported USB C connectors, but that option still seems a very rare feature.

I was surprised to find a case that might be able to do it. Then it's a matter of finding a good graphics card that fits within the size limitations of the case. I think I've got a combination:

case$74.99$83.29 Silverstone ML-08
MiniITX size; 330mm x 140mm graphics; 2.5" drive; STX power
graphics $898.99$599.99GeForce GTX 1080267mm x 112mm; "blower" form for air flow; needs 500W power supply
motherboard $244.99$193.01 Asus Strix X370-IMiniITX size; AM4 socket
cpu $299.99$189.99AMD Ryzen 7 1700AM4 socket; 65W power (vs 95W for the 1700X)
heat sink$39.89$39.69Silverstone AR06recommended for this low-profile case
memory $216.99$154.99G.Skill TridentZDDR4 3200; 16GB
hard drive $289.99$265.00WD Blue 1TB SSD2.5" drive
power supply $124.99$132.25 Silverstone SX 600-GSTX power; 600W; recommended for this low-profile case

So, $2190.82 for a completely new system, good for gaming yet small and power efficient. Not quite the kind of huge workhorse that I typically buy to last me many years at a time. Desktop technology, however, has stagnated in recent years, so maybe this setup is good enough to last for another long cycle of 8 years between upgrades. At $275/year for that 8 year period, it's not a bad deal. But... does it have the power to deliver a great high-end gaming experience, with the new games (Star Citizen) that will arrive while needing lots of hardware?

That's the question. If it does, then I can always buy these parts slowly as they come down in price, finally delivering the complete pc setup later this year.  After all, graphics cards are still quite overpriced because of cryptocurrency mining, but that effect should finally wane this year.

Anyway, I'm officially posting this configuration, so I have something for me and others to review over time.

Date: 2018-Apr-08, Sunday 08:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] foeclan
The specs look good, but the price seems kind of high, especially if you don't need a 1080 yet. Prices on those are still kind of ridiculous because of cryptocurrency mining.

For about $900, Alienware has some tiny boxes (~2"x8"x8") with a port for an external graphics amplifier. I still get 17% off coupons I can share, too. Might be a good way to handle it (it has a GeForce 960, and if you pick up the external amplifier dealy you can add a 1080 later). The Ryzen 7's better than what's in them, though, but not by a ton for gaming purposes based on the benchmarks I found.

I can't really speak to its Linux support, but aside from the external amplifier thing I don't see anything too weird on it.

Alienware Alpha
Alienware Graphics Amplifier
CPU benchmarks

Date: 2018-Apr-10, Tuesday 05:06 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] foeclan
Let me know when you decide. I feel like I might not be at Dell by this time next year, so I can't guarantee the coupons will be available forever.

The only thing I'd be concerned about whether it works in Linux would be the graphics amplifier (external video card thing). That could have weird proprietary stuff.

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