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I still want to write a think piece about capitalism. That word, capitalism, was never used by Adam Smith. It seems it was defined by Karl Marx (yes, that one) in Das Kapital, which I really need to read before launching into a proper investigation of the concept. Apparently he detailed its uses and pitfalls.

These days, though, the pitfalls abound. The idea is very much on my mind. Here for Moody Monday is just a short collection of the things that we are doing to ourselves (they don't passively happen to us) in the USA because of unregulated capitalism and profit-at-all-costs psychology.

By far the best thinking material, though, is this 95-minute YouTube video on Chokepoint Capitalism. I already knew some of the bad stuff that was happening, but this discussion opened my eyes to a lot more. That video explains that we need to have alternatives ready to offer. The Real-World Economics Review is a good place to learn what actual economists think on this topic.

We can imagine better. We deserve better. Failure would be unbearable.

Date: 2023-Apr-18, Tuesday 01:39 pm (UTC)
wispywillow: old-fashioned light bulb (light bulb)
From: [personal profile] wispywillow
A fictional podcast I listen to (Alice Isn't Dead) put the problem pretty succinctly:
- there are more and more people in the world
- there are increases in technology in efficiency
- more people to fill fewer and fewer jobs

AI is just the latest thing that will threaten creative jobs. Musk is hellbent on trucks being self-driving someday, which threatens a lot of jobs. These are just two small examples.

Capitalism as it is now is not sustainable. It cannot exist alongside increases in population and decreases in jobs.

Something is going to give.

Date: 2023-Apr-18, Tuesday 11:58 pm (UTC)
ratcreature: RatCreature as Che.  Viva la Revolucion! (revolution)
From: [personal profile] ratcreature
The term capitalism was coined before Marx. Actually Marx himself uses mostly "capital" and "capitalist" (as in people owning capital). The latter was used since the 17th century in somewhat the same way as we use it now, but definitely around the 1840s starting in France, like by the early anarchists and socialists and their criticism of property rights and the emerging industrial capitalism. The first proper definition of "capitalism" as term for an economic system is generally attributed to the French socialist Louis Blanc around 1850. So yeah, the term capitalism was coined as a critique of the system rather than by proponents, but not by Marx. He picked it up from the French. Though he certainly pushed the theory framework and analysis.

I recommend going with some kind of highlights version of Das Kapital though. We had to read excerpts in high school (it's part of the standard curriculum in Germany in both history and social studies classes and we read some in philosophy class as well) and it's very dense and tedious to read from what I recall, even if you are interested. I can't imagine it improves with translation and with reading the whole thing rather than just highlights.

Date: 2023-Apr-19, Wednesday 10:18 am (UTC)
ratcreature: RatCreature blathers. (talk)
From: [personal profile] ratcreature
In the German system high school is supposed to provide the whole liberal arts base layer, since you don't have to take general knowledge courses in university but specialize into your major right away with 18.

So in high school we read a lot of excerpts from various philosophers but mostly they were short. Marx wasn't the worst to read (Kant really liked his sentences too long), but still hard going.

We actually covered Marx a lot in high school, because his framing permeated so widely. So we were explained Marxist theories several times over the years at increasing levels of difficulty before we read any original sources. BTW this wasn't in Eastern Germany, and we covered classical economist like Adam Smith too, as well as more modern ones like Keynes. So it wasn't dome socialist indoctrination thing.

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