401k

2022-Jul-22, Friday 12:48 pm
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I have never wanted a 401k stock market "retirement savings" account.  Everywhere I worked during the last 20 years, though, has given me one even when I deliberately fail to sign the paperwork for it.  Why are companies even allowed to do that instead of pay people higher salary if they simply opt out of it?  I just now looked at the account I got from my last job (ended a few weeks ago).

HOLY MOLEY!

That's more money than I got in a whole year's salary, pre-tax.  I could immediately pay off my house and still have lots of money left over for house repairs, assuming I got the full amount by cashing out now.  Or save it all and wait out this pandemic a whole lot longer.

I might as well cash out.  The dashboard says I've already lost $5K in value this year due to stock market drops, and I expect it to get worse this year.  I just need to look up how much I'll pay in taxes and "early withdrawal" fees.

Anyone here familiar with this process and the penalties involved?  I've already looked over the Fidelity website, but it doesn't get into specifics.  I've created a new link today to my actual bank.  Once that's confirmed, apparently I need to call Fidelity to begin the closure process, so money can be delivered to the bank.

Edit 2022 July 28: I did it.  I withdrew the full amount, with the automatic deposit expected to complete on Tuesday next week.  I'll post details of the numbers and why it makes sense to do it, after all of the money movement has completed.

Date: 2022-Jul-24, Sunday 06:19 pm (UTC)
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You can also roll over any old 401k accounts into an IRA (or possibly into a new employer's 401k if they allow, but probably only while currently employed), and the same basic pre-tax rules apply, except an IRA has no age-55 exemption.

If you have any Roth 401k accounts, withdrawals are easier since the money is already taxed (and you can roll over into a Roth IRA). But I doubt they'd automatically sign you up for a Roth 401k.

I rolled my retirement accounts into one traditional IRA and one Roth IRA; it makes the 72(t) Substantially Equal Periodic Payments easier to calculate. I was expecting a direct rollover, but wound up with four monstrously-big checks from Fidelity (payable to Charles Schwab IRA and Roth IRA, For Benefit Of me, and the same FBO my husband), and then we visited the Schwab office to deposit them.

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